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		<title>By: Karen Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2011/03/29/blogging-business/#comment-425761</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachael - Quite honestly if you&#039;re working full time as a professional blogger, the big question is how do you pay your bills?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachael &#8211; Quite honestly if you&#8217;re working full time as a professional blogger, the big question is how do you pay your bills?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
		<link>http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2011/03/29/blogging-business/#comment-425759</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m obviously very late to the conversation here, but this is fascinating and thought provoking stuff for a marketer such as myself. Karen&#039;s point are very interesting and although it&#039;s not like I&#039;ve never considered the reasons why a blogger would want financial remuneration, it&#039;s certainly given me an insight into the dilemmas a professional blogger faces.

As more bloggers make their hobby their main income source (as a couple of my friends are planning to do) does this mark a change in the way that PR and marketing departments deal with bloggers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m obviously very late to the conversation here, but this is fascinating and thought provoking stuff for a marketer such as myself. Karen&#8217;s point are very interesting and although it&#8217;s not like I&#8217;ve never considered the reasons why a blogger would want financial remuneration, it&#8217;s certainly given me an insight into the dilemmas a professional blogger faces.</p>
<p>As more bloggers make their hobby their main income source (as a couple of my friends are planning to do) does this mark a change in the way that PR and marketing departments deal with bloggers?</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This raises excellent questions (and also answers a few I am currently wrestling with). As this issue is first and foremost in my head right now as well, this is so helpful to read. Thank you Karen. I&#039;m still trying to figure out where I want to be and what I want the focus of my blog to be. It&#039;s gone through a lot of transitions already in all the years I&#039;ve been blogging. I don&#039;t know what the future holds for me and travel but I&#039;m somewhat glad to know I am not alone in trying to figure it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This raises excellent questions (and also answers a few I am currently wrestling with). As this issue is first and foremost in my head right now as well, this is so helpful to read. Thank you Karen. I&#8217;m still trying to figure out where I want to be and what I want the focus of my blog to be. It&#8217;s gone through a lot of transitions already in all the years I&#8217;ve been blogging. I don&#8217;t know what the future holds for me and travel but I&#8217;m somewhat glad to know I am not alone in trying to figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2011/03/29/blogging-business/#comment-424515</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lara - To be honest most of the comments left on Europe a la Carte are from other bloggers/people in travel industry vs &quot;normal&quot; travellers. I&#039;m working hard on reaching out beyond the online travel community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lara &#8211; To be honest most of the comments left on Europe a la Carte are from other bloggers/people in travel industry vs &#8220;normal&#8221; travellers. I&#8217;m working hard on reaching out beyond the online travel community.</p>
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		<title>By: lara dunston</title>
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		<dc:creator>lara dunston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely, re readers leaving comments on blogs, but do they? I&#039;ve never seen any. 

When we wrote books for LP, they&#039;d mostly email us reader&#039;s comments that had been emailed, but they&#039;d also send us a stack of photocopies of reader&#039;s handwritten lists, so would other publishers, like DK, AA Guides, Thomas Cook, etc, and this was just a few years ago!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, re readers leaving comments on blogs, but do they? I&#8217;ve never seen any. </p>
<p>When we wrote books for LP, they&#8217;d mostly email us reader&#8217;s comments that had been emailed, but they&#8217;d also send us a stack of photocopies of reader&#8217;s handwritten lists, so would other publishers, like DK, AA Guides, Thomas Cook, etc, and this was just a few years ago!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2011/03/29/blogging-business/#comment-424513</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lara - I think that your last point about being honest and (as far as possible) objective in reviews, so that your readers can trust you, is crucial. I&#039;ve had some criticism for my honest reviews along &quot;biting the hand that feeds you&quot; lines too but I don&#039;t believe that fluffy reviews are good for any of the parties involved in the long run.

With blogs it should be easier for readers to connect with the author/reviewer by leaving a comment, than having to hand write a letter and then post by snail mail?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lara &#8211; I think that your last point about being honest and (as far as possible) objective in reviews, so that your readers can trust you, is crucial. I&#8217;ve had some criticism for my honest reviews along &#8220;biting the hand that feeds you&#8221; lines too but I don&#8217;t believe that fluffy reviews are good for any of the parties involved in the long run.</p>
<p>With blogs it should be easier for readers to connect with the author/reviewer by leaving a comment, than having to hand write a letter and then post by snail mail?</p>
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		<title>By: lara dunston</title>
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		<dc:creator>lara dunston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In relation to the holiday rentals we stayed at on our grand tour (in my previous comment I was referring to accommodation reviewing generally - whether it be for stories or books), we didn&#039;t write about the negative aspects *rather* than the good things, we simply tried to write honestly about the places we were staying in. 

If the place was wonderful - although I don&#039;t think there was any place that was 100% perfect (there never is, not even with hotels) - then, we most certainly gushed, like the London penthouse we stayed in, or the Austin houses, for example. 

But if there were problems we wrote about them. For instance, the place we stayed at in Kenya didn&#039;t have the promised internet access (that HomeAway Holiday-Rentals actually paid to have put on!), the fan wasn&#039;t working properly, the toilet didn&#039;t work properly, the mosquito net had holes in it, the kitchen was unhygenic, etc etc. Diani Beach itself was also disappointing on a number of levels. We had to tell it like it is. We were accused by one reader of &quot;biting the hand that was feeding us&quot; (perhaps a friend of the owners!) but everyone&#039;s credibility is at stake here - ours, HomeAwayUK&#039;s. If we want readers to trust us, we need to be honest. 

Some bloggers don&#039;t seem to understand the importance of this and I think maybe that&#039;s because they don&#039;t (yet) have a connection with the travellers reading their blogs - I wonder how many bloggers have had travellers read their reviews, go to a place, and then come back and say, thanks, I loved that place. Whereas when we wrote guidebooks, readers would always be sending in letters (yes, some handwritten even!) with feedback, and the publishers would give us those letters with our briefs, so there was always a connection to the reader&#039;s experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In relation to the holiday rentals we stayed at on our grand tour (in my previous comment I was referring to accommodation reviewing generally &#8211; whether it be for stories or books), we didn&#8217;t write about the negative aspects *rather* than the good things, we simply tried to write honestly about the places we were staying in. </p>
<p>If the place was wonderful &#8211; although I don&#8217;t think there was any place that was 100% perfect (there never is, not even with hotels) &#8211; then, we most certainly gushed, like the London penthouse we stayed in, or the Austin houses, for example. </p>
<p>But if there were problems we wrote about them. For instance, the place we stayed at in Kenya didn&#8217;t have the promised internet access (that HomeAway Holiday-Rentals actually paid to have put on!), the fan wasn&#8217;t working properly, the toilet didn&#8217;t work properly, the mosquito net had holes in it, the kitchen was unhygenic, etc etc. Diani Beach itself was also disappointing on a number of levels. We had to tell it like it is. We were accused by one reader of &#8220;biting the hand that was feeding us&#8221; (perhaps a friend of the owners!) but everyone&#8217;s credibility is at stake here &#8211; ours, HomeAwayUK&#8217;s. If we want readers to trust us, we need to be honest. </p>
<p>Some bloggers don&#8217;t seem to understand the importance of this and I think maybe that&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t (yet) have a connection with the travellers reading their blogs &#8211; I wonder how many bloggers have had travellers read their reviews, go to a place, and then come back and say, thanks, I loved that place. Whereas when we wrote guidebooks, readers would always be sending in letters (yes, some handwritten even!) with feedback, and the publishers would give us those letters with our briefs, so there was always a connection to the reader&#8217;s experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lara - I think I read that if there were things about the HomeAway holiday rentals in which you stayed that you&#039;d didn&#039;t like, you wrote about these aspects rather than only write about the good things?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lara &#8211; I think I read that if there were things about the HomeAway holiday rentals in which you stayed that you&#8217;d didn&#8217;t like, you wrote about these aspects rather than only write about the good things?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2011/03/29/blogging-business/#comment-424504</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ayngelina - I do always take my netbook with me when travelling but there are two issues about working during a press trip. If you go on a group press trip, there&#039;s usually a very packed itinerary with very little free time. If I plan my own trip, I will allow for at least two hours online a day (assuming I can get a decent internet connection)but as I&#039;m the editor of 2 travel blogs most of this time is just keeping on top of things e.g. answering emails, promoting the days posts, moderating and replying to blog comments. Whilst I&#039;ll try to tweet a bit about my trip and upload a couple of photos, I won&#039;t have time to produce any content. If I spent too much time working there&#039;s not much point to travelling, if I don&#039;t get out and about and see my destination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayngelina &#8211; I do always take my netbook with me when travelling but there are two issues about working during a press trip. If you go on a group press trip, there&#8217;s usually a very packed itinerary with very little free time. If I plan my own trip, I will allow for at least two hours online a day (assuming I can get a decent internet connection)but as I&#8217;m the editor of 2 travel blogs most of this time is just keeping on top of things e.g. answering emails, promoting the days posts, moderating and replying to blog comments. Whilst I&#8217;ll try to tweet a bit about my trip and upload a couple of photos, I won&#8217;t have time to produce any content. If I spent too much time working there&#8217;s not much point to travelling, if I don&#8217;t get out and about and see my destination.</p>
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		<title>By: lara dunston</title>
		<link>http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/2011/03/29/blogging-business/#comment-424495</link>
		<dc:creator>lara dunston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karen - Grantourismo was actually a personal travel experiment that my husband and I began developing years ago in response to our frustrations as travel writers. Initially, we were hoping to get a book deal, then we decided to look for a sponsor and we were figuring out how to fund it and working on a larger business plan when - by sheer coincidence - I saw HomeAwayUK post a notice looking for a writer-photographer team to undertake a similarly ambitious yearlong project. (See THE PROJECT link at Grantourismo for more info.) 

So that&#039;s one reason why it wasn&#039;t a press trip from our perspective, but I guess HomeAwayUK could see it as a yearlong press trip in a way, though we only wrote about their properties once every two weeks and the rest of the time we were exploring our own stories. For them, it was definitely a marketing-communications exercise, in that we weren&#039;t only reviewing the properties but promoting a lifestyle, a way of travelling, i.e. living like locals, slow travel, sustainable travel, etc.

A &#039;press trip&#039; also suggests an organized trip, arranged by a PR, where the media is shuffled from one location to another, whereas the only thing arranged for us was the accommodation and flights, and once we arrived in a place we were figuring out for ourselves what we wanted to do and what we wanted to write about.

Re not writing a hotel review if a hotel isn&#039;t worth writing about, it&#039;s very different if you&#039;re self-publishing, but if you&#039;re doing, say, a &#039;48 Hours in...&#039; story and only have space for three hotels you&#039;re not going to send people to a bad one; ditto if you&#039;re doing a magazine story and can only include five hotels; or even a guidebook where you might need to write about 10 or 20 hotels for a city - if there are 20 better hotels then you&#039;re simply not going to include the bad one. So it&#039;s not about self-censorship at all, it&#039;s about being discerning and making choices firmly with travellers in mind, because, after all, the whole point of our writing is to show travellers a good time. Not a bad one. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen &#8211; Grantourismo was actually a personal travel experiment that my husband and I began developing years ago in response to our frustrations as travel writers. Initially, we were hoping to get a book deal, then we decided to look for a sponsor and we were figuring out how to fund it and working on a larger business plan when &#8211; by sheer coincidence &#8211; I saw HomeAwayUK post a notice looking for a writer-photographer team to undertake a similarly ambitious yearlong project. (See THE PROJECT link at Grantourismo for more info.) </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s one reason why it wasn&#8217;t a press trip from our perspective, but I guess HomeAwayUK could see it as a yearlong press trip in a way, though we only wrote about their properties once every two weeks and the rest of the time we were exploring our own stories. For them, it was definitely a marketing-communications exercise, in that we weren&#8217;t only reviewing the properties but promoting a lifestyle, a way of travelling, i.e. living like locals, slow travel, sustainable travel, etc.</p>
<p>A &#8216;press trip&#8217; also suggests an organized trip, arranged by a PR, where the media is shuffled from one location to another, whereas the only thing arranged for us was the accommodation and flights, and once we arrived in a place we were figuring out for ourselves what we wanted to do and what we wanted to write about.</p>
<p>Re not writing a hotel review if a hotel isn&#8217;t worth writing about, it&#8217;s very different if you&#8217;re self-publishing, but if you&#8217;re doing, say, a &#8217;48 Hours in&#8230;&#8217; story and only have space for three hotels you&#8217;re not going to send people to a bad one; ditto if you&#8217;re doing a magazine story and can only include five hotels; or even a guidebook where you might need to write about 10 or 20 hotels for a city &#8211; if there are 20 better hotels then you&#8217;re simply not going to include the bad one. So it&#8217;s not about self-censorship at all, it&#8217;s about being discerning and making choices firmly with travellers in mind, because, after all, the whole point of our writing is to show travellers a good time. Not a bad one. :)</p>
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